A shocking, double-blind study released by Harvard, in collaboration with MIT, has revealed that all men who are homophobic are actually homosexuals themselves. The study, which was carried out over the course of 5 years and involved nearly 5,000 male subjects, is being accepted by the American Psychological Association as being “scientifically irrefutable.”
This lengthy, intricate study was conducted by the folks at the Harvard Center for Brain Science and incorporated proven Penis Responsiveness Technology (PRT) and Brainwave Function Reading (BFR) from leading scientists from the Biomimetic Robotics Lab at MIT.
The Penis Responsiveness Technology was created from an offshoot program with the Meshworm Soft Robotics sleeve which was fitted around each of the subjects’ tiny penises. It is capable of measuring blood flow, responsive twitches, and swelling. Meanwhile, Brainwave Function Reading system was set up with diodes attached to the different parts of the skull to read basic emotional responses in each part of the brain as stimuli was taken in by each subject.
Test subjects were then shown pictures of gay males in various affectionate scenarios of increasingly sexual nature. “We began with hand holding, cuddling, and kissing,” Head Researcher Maxwell Kow stated.
“Without fail, each and every person in the study who strongly expressed a dislike of LGBTQ+ individuals in the intake survey always had brain activity that showed feelings of confusion and extreme arousal,” Kow stated. “This was inevitably coupled with physical arousal to various degrees, but it was certainly significant enough to show that they have a desire to rub sweaty, hairy balls all over their face.”
The study also showed a direct, positive correlation between the degree of homophobia expressed in a subject’s survey and the decreased time it took the individual to produce a full-on, albeit tiny erection.
“If our findings make you angry, just know that it’s because you’re gay,” Kow concluded.
Science, as long as it is science, is always cautious in making such brute generalizations like ‘all’ homophobic people are gay people and the like; it more suits ideology rather then science. I cannot judge if it is the Harvard article’s flaw due to absence of a link to it. Anyhow, let us assume doing it is acceptable. So what consequences would follow from allowing one to make such overwhelming generalizations? If it is true that all of the people who dislike gays are gays themselves, the rest of people would contain those who do not dislike them–that is, those who like and those who are neutral to them. This conclusion or rather, this logic questions the credibility of the meanings of words–namely, the term dislike in this case. Imagine that the meaning of your disliking eating an apple would suggest at once your implicit inclination for liking eating the apple? So what, to like or not to like, to eat or not to eat? Now you cannot be sure not only in the usage of the word dislike but also in that of the term like etc. How would you enjoy an ‘opportunity’ for using words in that uncertain, contradictory ways? But just this is what the logic of doing the brute generalizations implies here.
The study is interesting but it is worthless when you don’t state the title and or the authors. Please could you do this so the study can be verified. At least in this description of the study the necessary control is lacking and I really hope that they did that, otherwise the study proves nothing, which would be a pity. Best regards
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I’m a gay male and sometimes I have sexual feelings towards girls but it makes me feel awkward because I’m not used to it. I think of sexuality like a spectrum that changes as you get older with each new experience. I was a bottom. Slowly becoming a top. Who’s knows maybe I’ll find the woman of my dreams? I’m not really all for gay marriage though but that’s just my personal feelings on it. I don’t want to get married to a man that would feel strangest of all. Plus I genuinely believe children need a mother. A real woman. So for children I guess shouldn’t be allowed for gay men. Unless they are doing it with lesbians. It’s my belief that balance is key to happy childhoods and raising healthy children. That’s all.
You sound like you have some personal demons and some personal acceptance to deal with honey.
when I was a regular church goer, and deeply involved in my church community I was (like I am in day-to-day life) a person who people felt comfortable sharing things with. through this process I dscovered that the one who was always badgering people about porn, was the one with the secret porn addiction, the one who constantly warned of the dangers of premarital sex, was unmarried and sexually active, the one who condemned smoking as disgusting and ungodly, was the secret smoker. this seems to be human nature (as if our “family values” politicians haven’t already proven it by their actions O.o) .
I’ve never been bullied at school but I used to act all hetero around my friends. I tried to avoid talking about women and sex but sometimes I just had to. Did I talk trash about homosexuality at some point? Yes, but only with my “friends” (with whom we’d often give each other hand-jobs). Forward 20 years into the future. We have a distant relative who visits us all the time and he’s very homophobic. He’d make homosexuality a topic every time and will use derogatory words for no apparent reason. He certainly likes to talk about gay people more than gay people themselves. I am gay and I act more straight than he does. He’s about 30 and has never had a relationship with a girl for more than couple of months. His favorite t-shirt is depicting a gay spot in Provincetown, MA, where he CHOSE to work for a year on a summer program from Greece and everything he does and say screams GAY.
I don’t think that all homophobes are closeted homosexuals, but vast majority of them must be. Religion alone is not enough to screw up someone that much in this century.
There’s something else. I had a friend who was quite homophobic until he found out about me. He apologized and felt really sorry for the jerk he’s been to me without even knowing. I don’t think he ever said anything bad about gay people since then.
I wish I had time to read all of these comments, but I’m on the fly right at the moment. I’ll try to sum how I feel about this up quickly. Keep in mind that I’m a devoutly liberal gay man when I make the following statement:
Word choice here I think is key. If a person says that he or she is not gay, your test doesn’t prove that they are gay–it proves that they respond sexually to sexually explicit material among same-sex couples, or groups, or whatever. To put a defining label on someone based upon these reactions is ridiculous. Did we learn nothing at all from the Kinsey studies? Everyone has varying degrees of homosexuality and heterosexuality. I’ve been gay for 32 years now, and I would test positive to heterosexual stimulus, even though it’s not a preference.
I think that what this study more or less implies is that these individuals fear the implications of exposure to the homosexual lifestyle and perhaps even fear that they can be tempted to participate in a same-sex encounter or two. That can be quite terrifying for one who was brought up in an atmosphere where they knew they would be punished severely if this type of behavior would crop up. Environmental factors and socially accepted norms, I think, can have great effect on the amount of homophobia one exhibits.
There has to be some kind of general use for a study like this, but what it’s currently trying to claim it is, is an utterly ridiculous claim.
This is a standard leftist claim. That opposition to something they adore can only be done as a result of some biologically suppressed urge toward it. This is typically a rapist mentality. “I know she wants me, even if she said no.”
A lot of people will argue ‘semantics’ over the terms gay, same gender attracted, bisexual and homosexual – or in the case of this article – referring to alleged ‘homophobic’ individuals.
The paradigm of same gender affection is a undeniable sliding scale – ranging from mere platonic male friendship (Brotherhood) all the way to scenarios where intimacy ~may~ occur.
However, the term ‘Gay’ is used far too generally to lump this huge demographic of men (only 38-40% of males are totally and exclusively ‘heterosexual’) into a restrictive faction that really has nothing to do with true orientation or actual behavior. ‘Gay’ refers to a cultural phenomenon (that has grown increasing more bizarre and depraved over the decades) and has nothing to do with a person’s orientation or level of affection expressed toward their peers. [Just as ‘gansta culture’ doesn’t accurately define all African Americans.]
‘Gay Culture’ disgusts me, but that has nothing to do with my identity as a male, my presumed orientation, which is and always has been undefined (by choice) and which is more accurately defined by Brotherhood, Camaraderie and Masculine Respect for my buddies. That has been MY unwavering viewpoint for decades, without any doubt!
A guy can react positively to images of intimacy, friendship, expressions of affection, etc., between two men and yet be averse to the premises of drag, transgenderism, and various other cultural elements that have NOTHING to do with the Same Gender Attraction, Brotherhood and Masculine Behavior.
Perhaps it is the offensive depictions and the non-male gender related elements in gay culture that the study participants objected to – earning them an undeserved accusation of ‘homophobia’. Homophobic implies a fear of men – or a rejection of interactions of any type among males. Clearly the individuals in this double blind study have no fear of male (intimacy) based on their physiological reactions.
Homophobic? Not at all.
‘Gay’ (culture) – phobic. YOU BET!
I haven’t been homophobic since I learned beyond my parents’ vague idea of wisdom (years ago). That said, if I stumble on something erotic and gay, just because it’s not what I’m attracted to doesn’t mean a body ignores that hey, that’s sex. You should get ready!
Body, this isn’t my cup o’ tea.
Well why not find something that is?? Seems like a GREAT time!
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I’m implying, for those who don’t follow, that you don’t *have*to see something you actually like to be coaxed into *thinking* of something you do like, or simply getting subconsciously excited because of an unrelated (but still “sex”) catalyst.
I’m not fond of the mentality some people have where hating gays is like, God’s work or something. But just because they get confused/aroused by seeing such things doesn’t mean they’re auto-gay. A lot of them? Could be. But certainly not all.
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This is so dumb It’s a choice
Yes, being homophobic is a choice. Thanks for your comment Son bun!
I would like to read this Harvard study. Where’s the link?
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Wow. Another SMH montage as I read these comments and sincerely hope I read more troll than I did brainwashed sheep.
I gotta laugh out of the age old homosexual vs. religion debate. Mostly laughing because two people just wasted a lot of time fighting a losing battle trying to convince the other of your life views. The Internet is a goldmine for these lovely lulz. I like to take a stab at summarizing things so because I don’t see the role of “jackass on his high horse” filled…
I’d nutshell this whole page pretty simply:
Homosexual people are still homosexual.
Ignorant people are still ignorant.
But hey, starving people are still starving so get your head outta your ass and go help someone that needs it right now.
This is interesting. Can someone post further references to the study? Usually there is a link to the study but not in this article.. (As much as I want to believe its truth)
I saw this on Fb and decided to have a look, purely out of curiosity and time to waste. But I have to say I’m shocked by someone professing to follow God’s word in the Bible and clearly ignoring the ‘judge not lest you be judged’ bit. I am a Christian (well think I am, though its not the first time an evangelical has told me I’m not as I am a Catholic). (Oh and evangelicals are extreme Protestants, originally the name was given to those who ‘protested against the catholic church in Western Europe in the Middle Ages). No person can judge another and say what only God can decide. I hate prejudice and refuse to judge based on someone’s apparent lifestyle. I have no idea what is in their hearts and minds. I’m in the uk so may not have the details but i think the woman who got into trouble for refusing to give a licence to a same sex couple to marry, had herded been divorced and had an affair? I won’t judge her private life but I will say that those acts are also criticised in the Bible. Trying to play God and saying who is or who is not accepted by him or daring to say who goes to hell is a very grave matter, non believers are right not to care but Christians should be careful not to be so presumptious. I have to admit to being a bit shocked by people saying they are Christian but slandering that belief.: hate has no part. Even if you disagree with a law this has been judgemental and insulting. I personally think that adult behaviour which does not hurt others should be legal by the way, and private life should be private.
Is there a link to the actual study? I can’t find one.
Im hetero, Sometimes I have homophobic feelings, but I’m not sure if it’s homophobic, but rather that I don’t want women to think I’m gay because then they will find me less attractive. Most women I know are turned off by someone who has any inkling of gay in them. At least romatically/sexually. Like I hung out with my gay friend one weekend and then I told this girl I like and she was like super surprised and started looking at me funny … i tried not to react because its like.. why would you think Im gay just because I’m hanging out with a gay guy? Also the gay guy clearly likes me at least a little bit in “that way” so then people assume that because I associate with the person that i must be gay or bi.
Granny early on said: It’s a tire. Hahahaha and that went right by the rest of you arguing over whether the study was done right or whether Christianity is a religion. Hahahaha. It’s a tire…It satire…SATIRE…get it? Hahahaha Now don’t get me wrong the rest of you are just as funny as Granny!
And stop wasting my time as you are just to ignorant to even wast any more of my precious time on. I hope you like the heat because where you spend eternity is really hot. But of course yhou still have a chance to enter His Kingdom, if you ask for forgiveness & turn from your sins.
Your life. You’re wasting it. Said both of us to eachother.
The world would a lot better place without people like you pushing perversion on everyone. Nope my life is full of Gods love. Put down the bottle grandma.
I just finished the bottle. Do you have any more?
janmit63,
You said: “Christianity is not a religion, it’s a deep spiritual relationship with God.”
Sure it is, there are just many sects!
You also said: “A google search also says homosexuality is normal & so called ssm is the law of the land but of course that’s not true.”
Sure it is moron! And there isn’t a damn thing you can do to change that, must as you would love to! We can get married in every state and we are in fact then legally married. And before you even bother to say that your god does not recognize it, I will respond first and say “I DON’T GIVE A SHIT”!
Catholics and Protestants are not Christians. Our laws are based on Gods laws. sorry I don’t read garbage & therefore will not click on your stupid link. America IS NOT a secular nation never has been & never will be your ignorance is bliss.
Lol
Christianity IS NOT a religion. No it’s not the law of the land & your history really sucks. The SCOTUS CAN NOT make laws only congress can do that & Congress never made this a law. Let me clear this up for you from a purely Constitutional perspective;
Marriage has never been a right and has been simply a license since 1636 when MA first decreed that everyone would be required to license their marriage to protect inheritance from false claims.
The Constitution decreed that anything that the Federal Government was not specifically delegated to regulate, the states are guaranteed the authority to regulate through the consent of the citizens of each state per the 10th Amendment. Marriage, which is nowhere mentioned or even alluded to in the Constitution, is a purview of the states, who grant a license, under the criteria set by each state and each state that banned gay marriage banned it for all persons, not a select group so equal protection is actually nullified.
The 14th, 15th, 19th and 26th Amendments are specifically clear and in combination, prohibit anyone, including a judge, from denying or abridging the vote. Simply, no court can overturn the vote of the citizens (except in instances when the vote overturns the enumerated rights guaranteed by the Constitution).
The 9th Amendment is specifically clear that nothing in the Constitution can be used to deny or attack any enumerated right guaranteed by the Constitution.
We also have an Amendment process, to redress anything in the Constitution that had changed during time due to oversight or technology…I.E. Women’s right to vote, slavery, former slaves rights etc.
What the Supreme Court has done in this ruling is simply usurp the entire amendment process, nullified the right to vote, nullified the state’s authority, created law by judicial fiat and also nullified conscience and would be saying the same if the SCOTUS has overturned states who had voted FOR gay marriage.
Kentucky legally passed a ban on gay marriage and the Constitution is crystal clear that the states have that authority to do so, so long as all are banned equally as equal protection also means equal prohibition. The County Clerk in this instance is subject to the laws of the Commonwealth of Kentucky and must enforce Commonwealth statutes and the Constitution of Kentucky.
She cannot, by law enforce Federal Laws nor is she subject to penalty for failure to do so. For her to grant a marriage license to gay people, which by statute is illegal in Kentucky, she would be forced by the Courts to violate the laws that she is sworn to uphold, no matter what the Supreme Court has ruled.
Kim Davis is by law, in the right here. She cannot legally grant a license to anyone not qualified to receive said license and the Courts are prohibited from coercing her into doing so by Federal Law; Felony Coercion.
janmit63,
You said: “Catholics and Protestants are not Christians”
Yeah, well I’m sure they would disagree with you. After all you are not the final word and you don’t have the only say.
I get tired of “holier than thou” people claiming their beliefs are the only true beliefs. Seriously, get over yourself!
You also said: “Our laws are based on Gods laws….America IS NOT a secular nation never has been & never will be your ignorance is bliss”
Again I tell you, I want to see you make that insane claim in a court of law and watch the Judge’s reaction! You are a fucking moron!!
You and “your god” can shove it where the sun don’t shine because “your god” does not make our laws!
You are a truly unhinged person who is basing their entire life on their version of a FANTASY!
janmit63,
Earlier I missed this but you said: “She cannot, by law enforce Federal Laws nor is she subject to penalty for failure to do so. For her to grant a marriage license to gay people, which by statute is illegal in Kentucky, she would be forced by the Courts to violate the laws that she is sworn to uphold, no matter what the Supreme Court has ruled.”
You cannot be more wrong. She swore an oath to uphold both the Kentucky Constitution and the US Constitution and the US Constitution takes precedence! Denying marriage licenses to same-sex couples violates the US Constitution and as such the Supreme Court most certainly does have the authority and jurisdiction to overturn state marriage bans!
Only an idiot does not know that!
The Supreme Court would not even exist if states could just defy every one of their rulings they don’t agree with moron!
You said You simply cannot be that ignorant! It is completely impossible to have religion protected from infringement BY state without also having state protected from infringement by CHURCH! Your ignorance on this is so sad, I am a history buff & you do don’t understand what the separation of Church & state really means. Because as i just stated the Church is “WE THE PEOPLE” & “WE THE PEOPLE” have every right to say what the state does. The state have no rights when it comes to the Church. America was in fact founded on Judo Christian values, always has been & always will be. No you are the one who needs to go back & take both a civics & history class & not this crap the government is brainwashing your poor brain with. ROFL wiki is the best you got sorry but I do not read garbage I throw it in the trash where it belongs. God owns this whole earth not man. No you don’t have to accept God that’s the beauty of this country, but you can not force everyone else to accept your perverse & deviant behavior & that’s what you want. Our laws are to be based on God’s laws & when they are not we are not to follow them. You know nada about this country, because you have been indoctrinated by the Big government.
You are truly an idiot if you think America is a theocracy!! You morons blow me away with your theocratic nonsense!! You cannot force anyone to live by your religious beliefs!
You morons are the ones trying to force others to live by your beliefs and people are getting sick and tired of you and your ilk trying to shove your beliefs down our throats!
If you want a theocracy so bad, then move to Iran you moron! Because you won’t have your theocracy in America!
And you are truly an idiot if you think America is a secular country. You perverts disgust me thinking you can force your perversion on any one.No we are not face it, it is actually you perverts who are trying to force everyone to accept & condone your perverse behavior & we are sick & tired of it. we do not want your perverse behavior shoved down our throats. Why don’t you people move to Iran & try to shove yopur perversion down their throats & see where it gets you. And don’t bother to respond, because you are done.
The majority of the country supports gay people. Is that why you sound so mad?
Only in your drunken dreams grandma. Truth is there are more Christians who DO NOT support homosexuality. Again put down the bottle grandma.
If you were born in the middle east, you’d probably be Muslim.
No grandma if i was born in the middle east I would still be a Christian.
Even if you were raised Muslim?
Yup even if I was raised muslim as there are a lot of muslims that are now Christian, just like there are Jews that are now Christian.
Got it. So all those other religions are just wrong.
Christianity is not a religion grandma.
Weird. Google search says “Christianity is the world’s largest religion.”
A google search also says homosexuality is normal & so called ssm is the law of the land but of course that’s not true. Christianity is not a religion, it’s a deep spiritual relationship with God.
You truly live in a magical world of make believe. Carry on ya whippersnapper!
No grandma you live in a world that wants to promote a perverse & deviant life style choice. People like you need to be locked in a rubber room.
A room full of condoms honey?
Leave it to you to come up with more perversion.
I’ll pray for you honey.
janmit63,
You said: “Truth is there are more Christians who DO NOT support homosexuality. ”
That is only true for evangelicals. Catholics and Protestants approve by a roughly 6 in 10 margin.
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
But of course you think evangelicals are the only valid christians and you think you are entitled to have your beliefs enshrined in the law! But you are dead wrong and again America is NOT a THEOCRACY moron!
Allen It’s not love its lustful, deviant & perverse behavior. Children have no problem with it because people like you are indoctrinating them to believe this is normal & moral & it’s sick for people like you to corrupt their little minds. Keep your perversion out of our childrens lives, it’s perverse people like you that are making more people home school their children. No the problem is people like brainwashing innocent children to believe your perverse, deviant & immoral behavior is good they don’t think like that on their own. You are so wrong their are more & more children coming to Christ & we will become stronger & stronger & will fight your perverse life style.
No children don’t have a problem with it, because there is NO problem with it!
Only a bigot and hater would attempt to call love between two people “deviant”!
Earlier you said: “You think it’s moral for a man to stick his penis up another mans behind or for 2 women to lick each others vajaja’s.”
LOL, are you truly that ignorant? Do you not even realize that men and women do both of those things all the time?!?
And as far as homeschooling, yeah diehard bigots like you are doing more homeschooling, no surprise there. But more and more as time goes on, people like you won’t be able to continue hiding the truth from kids and they will continue rejecting your kind of bigotry in ever increasing numbers.
Yes they do Allen it’s only the ones you brainwash who don’t have a problem with it & their blood is on your hands. No only a pervert & deviant person would dare call a christian a bigot & hater. Yes I do & they are just as perverse & deviant as you. No we home school our children to keep them away from sick, perverted & deviant people like you & they will always realize what your life style choice really is. And they will continue to see you all for the sick perverts you all really are.
You said: “Yes they do Allen it’s only the ones you brainwash who don’t have a problem with it & their blood is on your hands. ”
You truly don’t realize how many teens have grown up since long before the recent LGBT movement..ones who are gay and had to keep it inside…many for their entire time growing up..and many for their entire lives. How many LGBT youth have grown up only knowing fear of others finding out who they are for fear of rejection, persecution, being kicked out of their home or worse! You could care less because to you those people don’t exist!
YET, throughout every society and throughout time people have been born with that sexual orientation. For a long time they may have been mostly invisible but that wasn’t because they weren’t there but rather because they could not risk coming out, often not even being able to admit it to themselves.
You could care less how many LGBT youth have been victimized, persecuted, beaten up and even killed solely because they are gay! And this happened since WAY before the modern LGBT movement, back when gays were arrested on sight!
Nothing has changed now except that LGBT youth now know they are NOT ALONE and that there is nothing wrong with who they were born to be.
No, sadly people like you will never understand that because you simply do not want to!
So the truly perverse ones are those who DEMAND that LGBT people be denied their rights under the law and INSIST on teaching kids to hate LGBT people just like they do!
Within a couple of decades history will not be kind when they teach about this era of American history. This persecution by the RW radicals will be used as a valuable lesson to kids of the future about how NOT to make those mistakes again.
You said: “And the separation of church & state does no such thing it was written in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Ass. by Thomas Jefferson assuring them that when it came to Church matters the states hands are tied, in other words it was meant to keep the state out of the Church not the Church out of the state. ”
You simply cannot be that ignorant! It is completely impossible to have religion protected from infringement BY state without also having state protected from infringement by CHURCH!
Can’t you even follow logical train of thought? Seriously?!?
If state cannot interfere with church (a set of religious beliefs) then how in the hell can you actually believe that church can interfere with state and have their beliefs enshrined in law when that very act would violate another church’s beliefs?!?
In other words you cannot possibly have freedom OF religion without also having freedom FROM religion!
America is not and never has been a christian nation. America is a Democratic Republic! Please go back and retake Civics and while your at it, ask for a refund because you obviously did not learn this important lesson!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_United_States
You said: “You already have equal right as I already explained that to you but you obviously do not understand that. And you perverse people do not own this country. GOD does & He does not allow so called ssm so you lose. ”
NOPE, YOU are the one who loses! God does NOT own this country and you will NOT get your theocracy!!
I knew if I went back & forth with you for a bit that you would finally outright admit that you want America to be a theocracy and that in fact YOU are the ones who are trying to FORCE your beliefs down our throats, NOT the other way around like you bigots try to convince everyone of!
Your statement that I quoted above PROVES this is what you want!
Again you stating that people are born that way shows your ignorance, they choose to life a perverted & deviant life style & no amount of some stupid science is ever going to disprove that fact. Again there is no laws regarding so called ssm. Your continued ignorance on this is bliss.
You can keep going if you want to encourage people to make the world a better place.
janmit63,
Don’t tell me what to do! I’m done when I say I’m done and not before!
You said: “You perverts disgust me thinking you can force your perversion on any one.”
Hmm, let’s see here. We hold our loved ones hand in public sometimes. That is not shoving anything. We get married, again not shoving anything.
On the OTHER hand YOU want to force us back into the closet so it is you and your ilk trying to do the shoving moron!
You also said: “And you are truly an idiot if you think America is a secular country. ”
And you call me an idiot, you the guy who claims America is a THEOCRACY! Seriously, you are so out of touch you should be committed to an asylum!
Go ahead, try to make that argument in court, I dare you moron! Good chance the Judge truly would order a psych evaluation on you and from there you would be committed right away!
And you are done because this will be my last response to your ignorance. Keep your perversion in your home & away from me & my family. I said you are an idiot because you really believe America is a secular country & that’s because you are an idiot. And I would make that argument in court & there ain’t no judge that will ever try to give me a psych evaluation because he would get an earful about how any person who believes that for a man to stick his penis up another mans behind is normal needs to be removed from the bench, and then I would sue his behind. You people are the ones who need a psych evaluation for thinking a perverse & deviant behavior is normal. I will be turning off my notification’s to this perverse blog, as it’s time to wipe the dust from my feet of your clearly reprobate minds. Enjoy hell
So much Christian love!
janmit63,
You said: “Keep your perversion in your home & away from me & my family. ”
F*** you moron! We can show the same affection in public that straight couples do every single day and if you don’t like, shove it! We’re tired of your hate and your bigotry but mostly we’re tired of you trying to force us to live by your religious beliefs!
You also said: “I said you are an idiot because you really believe America is a secular country & that’s because you are an idiot. ”
LOL, what a f’ing moron! I thought I had seen it all from the likes of you. I’ve certainly met more than my share of assholes who WANT America to be a theocracy but you are the first one who actually tries to claim that America IS already a THEOCRACY!!! As I said, what an f’ing MORON!!!!!
lol pretty sure this was native land long before the christians were in north america
So by the same reasoning; is a male white racist that hates blacks; in fack a closet black man? Can’t gays just accept that there are males who do not like them? Do all gay men like the breeders? Do all gays accept everyone?
Are you saying you’re homophobic?
Sounds like he is saying your a racist.
Odd. Sounds like I’m saying he’s gay.
An I am saying you are an idiot who thinks everyone who don’t accept & condone perversion is a homosexual. Sounds like grandma has been nippin on the bottle a little too much.
Is it a sad existence being so angry about strangers who are not impacting you?
But they are impacting me, when they force their perversion on the world. It’s our schools, on our tv’s & trying to force people to accept & condone so called ssm. Keep your perversion to yourself’s.
The largest psychological association in the world disagrees with you. So you base your opinions on? Religious views? Clearly not science.
janmit63,
Furthermore, we will no more hide in the closet than you would! People tire of bigots like you who demand that same-sex couples hide their affection behind closed doors. To bigots like you we shouldn’t even be able to hold hands in public! Well tough luck bigot, get over yourself!
The largest psychological association in the world disagrees with you. So you base your opinions on? Religious views? Clearly not science. ROFL I could give a rats behind what some stupid psychological association has to say. They are nothing but a bunch of ignorant fakes.
Allen No people tire of people like you pushing your perversion all overt the place. The only people who should be able to hold hands in public are 1 man & 1 woman. Look in the mirror bigot.
janmit63,
That’s a lie and I’m pretty sure you know it! We could care less if you agree with marriage equality and we could care less if you hate us (which you obviously do) and shout to everyone that we’re going to hell! What we are demanding is Equal Rights under the law and that we WILL have! What we are demanding is an end to discrimination and an end to school’s, etc looking the other way when a child/teen is being persecuted because they are gay!
No it’s not a lie. and no I do not hate anyone Allen I care about your soul & don’t want you ending up in hell. No what you want is special rights, because you already have equal rights,1) you do not have to sit on the back of the bus. 2) you do not have to go to the back door of a restaurant to eat 3) you can go to any school you want & 4) you have the right to marry anyone of the opposite sex you so choose. This is not a civil rights issue it’s a moral issue & you claiming this has to do with civil is a a slap on the face for every black person. And no body is discriminating against them, it’s people like you who are discriminating against Christians by trying to force us to accept your perverse behavior. And nobody is persecuting them either, we are trying to make them see they are living a perverse life style choice.
janmit63,
Wow, listen to your hateful comment and then tell me again how you don’t hate!
You can marry the consenting adult of your choice, until recently we could NOT. So no that is NOT equal and only an idiot would say it is!
YOU are the ones trying to force your religious beliefs on us! Read for comprehension what you actually wrote! Us being allowed to marry the consenting adult of our choice does not affect you in the slightest! You trying to deny us that right DOES affect us. Again you are the ones trying to force us to believe according to your religious beliefs!
And learn from the scientific/medical community before you put your “foot in mouth” and claim that being gay is a choice!
Allen It’s only hateful in your head. No you can not marry the consenting adult of your choice. Lets clear this up in a purely Constitutional perspective;
Marriage has never been a right and has been simply a license since 1636 when MA first decreed that everyone would be required to license their marriage to protect inheritance from false claims.
The Constitution decreed that anything that the Federal Government was not specifically delegated to regulate, the states are guaranteed the authority to regulate through the consent of the citizens of each state per the 10th Amendment. Marriage, which is nowhere mentioned or even alluded to in the Constitution, is a purview of the states, who grant a license, under the criteria set by each state and each state that banned gay marriage banned it for all persons, not a select group so equal protection is actually nullified.
The 14th, 15th, 19th and 26th Amendments are specifically clear and in combination, prohibit anyone, including a judge, from denying or abridging the vote. Simply, no court can overturn the vote of the citizens (except in instances when the vote overturns the enumerated rights guaranteed by the Constitution).
The 9th Amendment is specifically clear that nothing in the Constitution can be used to deny or attack any enumerated right guaranteed by the Constitution.
We also have an Amendment process, to redress anything in the Constitution that had changed during time due to oversight or technology…I.E. Women’s right to vote, slavery, former slaves rights etc.
What the Supreme Court has done in this ruling is simply usurp the entire amendment process, nullified the right to vote, nullified the state’s authority, created law by judicial fiat and also nullified conscience and would be saying the same if the SCOTUS has overturned states who had voted FOR gay marriage.
Kentucky legally passed a ban on gay marriage and the Constitution is crystal clear that the states have that authority to do so, so long as all are banned equally as equal protection also means equal prohibition. The County Clerk in this instance is subject to the laws of the Commonwealth of Kentucky and must enforce Commonwealth statutes and the Constitution of Kentucky.
She cannot, by law enforce Federal Laws nor is she subject to penalty for failure to do so. For her to grant a marriage license to gay people, which by statute is illegal in Kentucky, she would be forced by the Courts to violate the laws that she is sworn to uphold, no matter what the Supreme Court has ruled.
Kim Davis is by law, in the right here. She cannot legally grant a license to anyone not qualified to receive said license and the Courts are prohibited from coercing her into doing so by Federal Law; Felony Coercion.
That’s a lie we are not trying to force any thing on you we are protecting God’s Marriage Covenant, marriage is 1 man & 1 woman always has been & always will be. Nobody is born a homosexual they choose to life that deviant, perverse life style, just like i choose to become a Christian. When it comes to this the scientific/medical community they are just a bunch of ignorant morons.
janmit63,
You said: “The only people who should be able to hold hands in public are 1 man & 1 woman. Look in the mirror bigot.”
And you say that WE are the ones trying to force our beliefs on others!
How exactly does two guys holding hands affect you? You don’t like to see it, then don’t look! People like you are so f’ing hypocritical and a bunch of liars! You want to stop two guys from holding hands in public and you try to make YOU the victim! How pathetic is that?!?
Allen How can I say that because that’s how God designed us He did not make 12 men or 2 women. I have looked in the mirror bigot & what I see is a Godly women who speaks out about this perverse & deviant life style choice. Because it is sick for 2 men to be holding hands in public & no child sould see this perverse behavior.
janmit63,
Wrong, all the way wrong. All the reasons you use against us having the right to marry were also used against interracial couples wishing to marry. That was not specifically about the right to marry one of a different race as it may seem on the surface. Ultimately it was about the right to marry the consenting adult of one’s choice. One chooses to marry someone of a different race, that is their choice and they have a right to be respected under the LAW!
You said: “Nobody is born a homosexual they choose to life that deviant, perverse life style, just like i choose to become a Christian. ”
Pure ignorance which goes against all common sense and statements from experts but you think your rationale supercedes that of the real experts because of your religious beliefs. Nope, that does not count. Your religious beliefs are 100% immaterial to the rights of others!
You said: “When it comes to this the scientific/medical community they are just a bunch of ignorant morons.”
Well of course you would say that because if you didn’t then even you could not justify your continued bigotry and demand for legal discrimination!
You said: “That’s a lie we are not trying to force any thing on you we are protecting God’s Marriage Covenant, marriage is 1 man & 1 woman…”
That alone PROVES your intent!! We don’t give a damn about your religious beliefs, we do NOT share them! By your VERY statement you are saying that we should not be allowed to marry because of yours and others religious beliefs!
Well, I’ve got news for you. Christians nor anyone of other religious beliefs owns marriage, it IS and ALWAYS has been a secular institution! And those of other religious faiths disagree with your beliefs and AGREE that we should be able to marry another of the same sex, but YOU would have YOUR beliefs be the one that is enforced by LAW!
But the problem is that we are NOT a theocracy and we will NEVER let it become one!
Allen Again do not bring race or the civil rights movement into this, that’s a disgrace to every black person. Being black is neither a perverse or deviant behavior. Neither is interracial marriage as long as it’s 1 man & 1 woman. Oh yes it was about ones right to marry a different race & had nada to do with 2 men or 2 women to marrying. You have no common sense when it comes to this matter because you are too deceived & brainwashed. You think it’s moral for a man to stick his penis up another mans behind or for 2 women to lick each others vajaja’s. No your perversion is 200% immaterial to the rights of Christians. Nope i say that because it’s the truth. they have never ever proven that people are born a homosexual. Nope that’s Gods intent, He does not recolonize your so called marriage & neither do Christians. No it is not a secular institution never has been & never will be, man can never redefine it no matter how hard he tries. It is already enforced by law Gods law & there is not 1 thing you can do about it. This is a Christian nation always has been & always will be. I feel sorry for you because you have no idea what is waiting for you.
You said: “Because it is sick for 2 men to be holding hands in public & no child sould see this perverse behavior.”
No, two people who love each other holding hands is NEVER perverse. And children do NOT have a problem with it until/unless bigoted parents and/or other adults teach them to hate like they do.
The problem is caused by people like you brainwashing kids into thinking that love is a bad thing if it is between two people of the same sex. They don’t think like that on their own.
The good thing is that the young are freeing themselves of those shackles of hate and bigotry more and more with almost every passing day. And I know that this pisses people like you off to no end but your kind have been and will continue to become more and more irrelevant and the rest of us are quite content with that.
You said: “This is a Christian nation always has been & always will be. ”
No it isn’t and in fact it was made very clear that this was and is not the case. And the separation of church & state further bears that out! You have quite literally admitted that you want America to be a theocracy and it is sad and pathetic that you don’t recognize how UN-American that is!
You said: “He does not recolonize your so called marriage & neither do Christians. ”
Can you truly not understand English? We could care less, we could not give a damn whether you recognize our marriage or not!! Why can’t you people understand such a simple thing?!?
What we care about is the LAW and Equal Rights under our Constitution.
EVERY SINGLE argument you people come up with is all based on your so called Christian beliefs! You do NOT own us, you do NOT own this COUNTRY! We are a Constitutional Republic and as such we ALL have our rights, not just you people!!
And quite frankly we could also not give a damn that you think we are going to hell! If you think we’re going to hell, fine but get the hell out of our lives! You people don’t have the right to enshrine YOUR religious beliefs in the law in an effort to control us!!
You have lost and you will not ever be allowed to deny us our right to marry ever again.
Get over yourself and MYOB!!
Yes it is Allen. And the separation of church & state does no such thing it was written in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Ass. by Thomas Jefferson assuring them that when it came to Church matters the states hands are tied, in other words it was meant to keep the state out of the Church not the Church out of the state. See the church is not some building it’s the people & the people (ie the Church) has every right to say what the state does. FYI the very first building that was erected when a new town was made was a Church. This is not a law the SCOTUS CAN NOT make laws only Congress can do that & NEWSFLASH they never made this a law. All they did was commit judicial tyranny. You already have equal right as I already explained that to you but you obviously do not understand that. And you perverse people do not own this country. GOD does & He does not allow so called ssm so you lose. No you perverse people get out of our lives & our business’s our Marriage Covenant.
This is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard. 1) there is no such thing as a homophobic. A phobic is a fear of some thing & nobody is scared of homosexuals. In fact homosexuals are Christianophobics, because they are scared that Christians are right & they are going to hell.
Preach homophobe!
ROFL Is that the best you got? You do know what a phobia is I assume, it’s the fear of something. I am in no way shape or form afraid of any homosexual, so your comment is invalid. I love them way more than you do because I care about their souls & I don’t want them to go to hell. I guess that makes you a Christianophobe.
Lol
I just read your profile & you claim you want to make the world a better place, well then you should stop promoting perversion or keep your trap shut. I am so glad your not my grammy as I would have nothing to do with you & neither would your great grandkids
Lol
Yes they are. It is pretty obvious when you consider that some people are so disturbed and upset about other people’s lives and that all that many of them can think of is how a same-sex couple has “sex”!
I could give a rats behind as long as they keep it behind their bedroom door & out of our faces. Not that this has anything to even do with the article.
Fat dog is gay
Methought they protested too fucking much!
I totally agree with this research. Because I have a friend who always behave like a homophobic person. But when he was not near me I looked at his computer and I saw a site about gay people meeting there. I didn’t tell him anything but it is such a pity that gay people behave as if they were homophobic.
Few people deny that many homophobes are closeted gays but to say they all are (or even nearly all) is just sheer nonsense. The APA would never sign on to such a blanket statement because they know better!
i agree about that. the words “all” and “are” are suspect at best in the sciences. The closest they’d come to that would be to say the research shows a high correlation or a strong statistical relationship. Black and white terminology isn’t used in the sciences. The world is too big and varieties of experience too great for such blanket statements.
As funny and realistic as this may be, what I want to know is where the cited resources for this study are at.
I’m honestly not a fan of mainstream gay culture as everything is made to seem like Sunshine’s, rainbows and unicorns as well as the symphonic irony against those that don’t share the same mindset even as such individuals may be supporters of non heteronormative relationships and gender as a state if being or even categorized as LGBT.
With this in mind, it’d be nice to take such studies a little more seriously instead of just making such vast generalizations as much as much as it might be true to some extent like pastors showing up on grindr or preachers with same sex pornography found on their devices.
But anyway, try to cite your sources next time to give yourself some more credibility, otherwise you end up sounding like a naive teenager that’s angry against the ignorance in this world, even as that is completely valid as far as those feelings being present.
I don’t mean to sound bureaucratic either but this kind of questionable content as well as the nature of the mainstream culture is what makes people take us less seriously, we should really try to be a little less refutable
Thanks for your comment. I strongly encourage you to look around my website more.
The author made a claim that ALL homopobes are closeted gays and further that the APA acknowledges what you claim this “study” shows as scientific fact!
I am gay and I know that many homophobes are closeted gays but not nearly all as you claim!
There is no way that the APA would accept some blanket statement like this as fact. The APA would NEVER apply such a standard and claim that ALL homophobes fall into this classification!
If they made such a claim then PROVE it!
Quit spreading misinformation.
I was surprised as well. You should check out some of our other articles.
The point is that the APA would not agree with any study that claims that ALL homophobes are closeted gays. The APA knows better than that.
That would make just about as much sense as saying that everyone who climbs a dangerous mountain has a death wish!
The APA would never make such a ridiculous statement.
The furthest the APA has ever gone is to say that SOME homophobes are closet gays.
Otherwise show me a link that proves the APA made such a statement.
you just trying to make people accepts homosexuality as normal sexual orientation…well, its not normal! these people need help! they may feel healthy and OK but there minds are sexually distorted. they need proper care to get there minds back to normal
Unfortunately for you, John, the medical and social sciences don’t agree with your findings.
Gosh! this is d dumbest research I have ever seen. how could these dumb research be used to make such generalization. Erotic pictures could move people into thinking about sex and getting aroused. Also, some other factors could could also cause sexual arousal e.g libidos of the people tested, background, anxiety, faith, etc. People get aroused by watching horse fuck each other. Now will that make them animals?…Dumb research from Harvard…
Yes, but I would theorise that people who hate the gays, who are homophobic, should theoretically be totally disgusted by what they see . . .and therefore NOT display any turn-on
Gosh! this is d dumbest research I have ever seen. how could these dumb research be used to make such generalization. Erotic pictures could move people into thinking about sex and getting aroused. Also, some other factors could could also cause sexual arousal e.g libidos of the people tested, background, anxiety, faith, etc. People get aroused by watching horse fuck each other. Now will that make them animals?…Dumb research from Harvard.
While these results make sense to me, I’m having a hard time verifying the existence of the Harvard-MIT study you are referencing. Would you be willing to post a link that takes us directly to something from either of those renowned institutions, or to a peer-reviewed journal? If you’ve already done this, I apologize for asking again – I simply haven’t been able to find it. Are you willing to share a link now?
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See it isn’t that the baby Jesus hates the HomoGays©, it’s that the Christians and Bakers that rage again the LesboQueers© are secretly HomoGay© and are afraid that they will find the HomoGay© dick delicious. It’s 2014, we straights don’t care. Quit blaming magic babies on your hangups and hate.
I am not Homophobic why are we still talking about this it really pisses me off. Accept us for who we are or take a train bye bye.
Homophobic people (all kinds of them) have been deceived by Judeo-Christianity. Hebrews invented prejudice and all kinds of discrimination against homosexual people turning mentally sane people into blood-thirsty monsters immorally justifying the mistreatment and the killing of homosexual people.
There is an interesting PDF file that can be downloaded which explains how homophobia came to exist and how it gained power and influence in most of the world as Christianity was imposed on nations by force because Christinaity gained terrain by force, not by “grace.”
The file is called: Religious Roots of the Taboo on Homosexuality by John Lauritsen.
Is it this one?
Parental autonomy support and discrepancies between implicit and explicit sexual identities: Dynamics of self-acceptance and defense.
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/102/4/815/
Why can I find no reference to this study on the Harvard Center for Brain Science website, and why are there no references quoted?
Is this story fabricated, and if so, why?
Genuine research into the link between homophobia and patterns of sexual arousal does exist, (although the conclusion was less certain than this attention grabbing headline). Covert homosexual attraction may be one cause of homohobia in individuals, but there is no reason to suspect it is the only one: How then would one explain variation between cultural communities?
You can look at their older study for now. This one is not publicly released yet.
I don’t really understand why there is no source given. There should be a a link to an abstract. This is kind of shady I think.
This looks pretty public to me.
Try this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
This is satire. Here is the article I believe it to be parodying.
http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html
Penile measurements are junk-science.
http://skepdic.com/penilep.html
Don’t worry. Average is slightly over 5″ – I’m sure you can’t be too far under that.
This is total baloney. Either that or I’m the only straight man who opposes homosexuality (not because of fear but because I think it’s immoral). Believe me, only a woman can arouse me. I think it’s more reasonable to believe there are plenty of other men who are the same way, than to believe that I am the only one. Your study fails even a basic methodology test because of small sample, unrepresentative sample, confusion of arousal from manual stimulation with arousal from visual stimulation, and confusion of other strong emotions with arousal. I wouldn’t even be surprised if the subjects were unknowingly given arousal-inducing drugs to force these results!
Immoral?
What the study concluded is not that because you don’t like homosexuality that you are gay deep inside. What it concluded is that VICIOUS HATERS/bully of gay people have homosexual tendencies. IT IS TRUE, I have in my 42 years of age noticed that with guys that are extremely fearful of gay men to be in the closet. MEN that are REALLY straight don’t feel threatened and don’t really give a rat’s ass about who sleeps with who.
Umm. Sure.
Michael is feeling inferior because his secret has been revealed. It’s okay Michael, we’ve all struggled at one point, just learn to accept your feelings 🙂
You, sir, are ridiculous .
He’s a perfect example of what we used to say when I was an undergrad: the louder they scream the louder they scream.
You’re just confused, you’d be happier if you just came out. Do you always have to prove your heterosexuality, I did too. I’m much happier being myself.
You do realize michael that “arousal-inducing” drugs such as viagra do not give you an erection unless you are sexually aroused by the other person?
That’s odd…the first time I tried Viagra I was alone. I wanted to understand the affects before being in a ‘situation’. I deliberately avoided any stimuli after ingesting. Despite this, the erection was spontaneous and nearly immediate, within 15-20 minutes. Perhaps there was a subconscious ‘anticipation’ but my point is…no other person or any physical manipulation was necessary. It was quite impressive. Haven’t done that in a while.
Opposing something isn’t the same as being a phobe. It depends on your actions. And nobody knows how they will physically react in an intimate situation with someone of the same sex- until they are in that situation. For many people, bisexuality creeps up on them. I can’t imagine homosexuality creeping up on someone, but bisexuality? Hells yes that happens. So those of you who are SO sure you’d never be aroused, put a pin in it, and report back once you’ve been in a close or intimate space with another of the same sex. You may be surprised. Or you may react just as you imagined you would. And if it feels exciting and good, just go with it. If it’s not hurting you or anyone else, it’s not bad or wrong or evil. The minute that harm occurs (or you feel it will occur), you have an obligation as a human being to immediately end whatever is happening.
Let’s all treat each other as we wish to be treated.
You don’t want someone telling you that you are wrong for loving who you love, or wrong for lusting for who you lust for, right?
I know I dont. So guess what? I DON’T DO THAT TO OTHERS. And you don’t have to, either.
If we ALL followed the Golden Rule-and if we all, as Jesus teaches, practiced love and forgiveness and gave mutual respect to one another as equals- there would be no war. (But then how would Halliburton survive?)
Seriously though, you know it’s not okay to judge others for their actions (unless it hurts anyone), so why the hell do so many judge and condemn others wrapped up in the façade of Christianity? (Omg- save your breath! I know Christianity is not fake, I mean the hypocrisy of someone acting like as ass and using religion as an excuse!)
Please folks, if you are going to call yourselves Christian, then for Godsake, follow the teachings.
Finally someone understand my doubts. I dont agree with the sample size and methods utilised. Something is telling me that enducive drugs were used for aroasal. Maybe the should epanded their sample size eventually I would have proved them wrong
Go on scientist…
Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
Adams HE1, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
Author information
Abstract
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
I know that I was bullied in school and at other times in my life and some of it occurred before I figured out that I was Gay. Later I found out that every one of those bullies were Gay also. It’s like that paraphrased line from Hamlet ” Methinks thou dost protest too much “
that was my experience also.
As somone who, to some extent, used to brush aside his homosexuality and hid it from his friends during his teen years and early twienties I can confirm that most homophobes are actually homosexual and bisexual people.
I know the mechanisms of homophobia and most of us who have gone through the same experience know and probably can spot repressed men more easily.
When homosexuality was discussed with family or friends or when I was asked about my sexual orientation (I always said “I’m straight” calmly) I felt nervous and a bit anxious. Even if they were not talking about me since they considered me heterosexual, I still felt finger-pointed, cornered, singled out in my heart as if they were cornering a thief. I was not a good feeling, not good.
I was never aggressive, but in order not to be thought of as homosexual I would fake attraction to females, I would go along with my friends and almost any heteroxist statements, especially when talking about female and their beauty.
Homophobes are filled with fear and anxiety about their same-sex feelings. If you have been born in a highly homophobic household or if your friends are homophobic chances are you will become the aggressive homophobe. The battle is inside their minds where they try to repell those feelings and build up a heterosexual identity to fit in.
Like many other guys, I used to think of my homosexuality as a phase, masturbation was just a phase, everything was just a phase and, eventually, when reaching adulthood I would feel exclusively attracted to women, would marry one and would live happily ever after.
My homosexuality never vanished. As I grew up and experienced love, I finally realised that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and finally that monster (prejudice against homosexuality, homophobia) went away for good. It took years though.
Now, I am openly homosexual and relieved, but I cannot deny that, to some extent, I still resent family, friends, christianity and society as a whole for making me feel bad about my nature and making refrain from experiencing love during my years as a teen and during my early twenties just like heterosexual people experience love. All this had an impact in my self-esteem too. It is not fair.
Well said.
I had the privilege of working with over 1,300 gay men in the Multicenter AIDS study, at the research clinic in Chicago. After listening to hundreds of closet & coming out stories, I fully agree with your observations. I eventually developed a generalization that having to live a lie & keep secrets about your “authentic Self”, for any reason, was a psychological stress of great import emotionally & spiritually. It doesn’t matter the closet, it is awful!
Beautifully put. Wish you ALL happiness in the world!
I would not expect more from a gay man other then to try your best at finding another way to push your ideas and agendas into the heterosexual crowd but I can tell you for a fact that this will not work not this time keep trying
It’s a tire
Awww, don’t be like that, cherub. We’re all doing well with or without your hate, and we’re all here in emotionally mature land, waiting for you to calm down.
Have a nicer day.
Found one
Nobody is trying to push their ideas on heteros? We don’t care about the hetero crowd and we’re not concerned with their acceptance. I’ve lived in san francisco for thirty years in the heart of the gay community and have never once heard anyone talk about the “gay agenda”, if we do have an agenda it’s to recieve equal rights, which is close, I wouldn’t call that an agenda, but there is a gay mafia! LOL
You’re right, Fatdog! As you say, “pushing ideas and agendas” will not change minds necessarily. But sharing facts/study results/data with the masses is not pushing ideas nor is sharing data by nature “pushing agenda”.
However, you should know that whenever an individual uses the phrase “pushing their agenda”, a great big bright red glowing arrow shoots down from the clouds and points to the top of their head as giant flashing letters spell out FOX NEWS WATCHER! BEWARE of BIGOTRY & HYPOCRISY in DISGUISE as “PATRIOTISM” across the sky above. What a sight to behold.
I’m sorry, but the educated are not Fox News consumers, Fatdog. And we all know that when the arrow is flashing down to an unfortunate person, whatever comes out of that mouth- well, its just not credible.
Case in point
Who is pushing? This is a serious study.
(And, BTW, it’s “than,” not “then.”)
‘Than’ not ‘then’.
And your response doesn’t make any sense.
“Not this time”, ha? Do you imply that there is set limit of times you can endure, after which you might… “give in to temptation”? If there is no temptation for you to begin with why do you define the number of times you can be tempted?
thank you for sharing, beautiful story. …and one that i’m sure many, many churched folk can relate to, i know i can! You are strong and noble for bringing to light how judgements are generated by (ususally church) authority and programmed as a mindset replicated throughout the institution. It’s the culture that fuel the flames of intolerance. The belief system that shuns, creates an immeasurable negative impact on our society. Homophobia hinders the authentic self from being present, it cuts everyone off from possibilities in life, in business and relationships. When told from authority “you’re going to hell and/or will not inherit God’s kingdom for your sexual orientation” well now, that’s a doozy of a thought. How awkward to be gay and in the presence of those who believe the gay will perish in hell. How damning! It polarizes us from each other.
Scripture says “good will be called bad and bad will be called good”. Christians say this about our culture today. What is good and what is bad? Is it good to judge your neighbor’s sexual orientation? From my understanding JC says to “..love your neighbor as yourself” He doesn’t say “…love your neighbor as yourself ONLY if your neighbor subscribes to your interpretation of scripture.”
I experienced a sick pain when i heard about the colorado bakery company who denied baking a cake for a gay wedding. What happened to us as a nation? So divided and uncertain of one another.
As someone who has studied scripture under the homophobic banner as a child, I’m fascinated by the stories of JC and still choose to celebrate and work with the LGBT community. I believe it’s what the good Lord would want me to do, and that’s me interpreting what scripture says about love and relationships.
thanks again for your post, you truly inspire to live my authentic self.
-amy ansel
Wonderful posting. Thanks. Zillions of us can identify one way or another.
Finally, you made it. Hopefully, you could find the essence of your life and true love.
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Wonder if my High School Bully is gay. mmm
Obviously. While he was hitting you he was getting a sexual thrill while touching you or holding you down. Did you notice if he had an erection while he was bullying you? Did you?
No sadly not. I just saw him in his tighty whities. hehehhe. THere was never any Physicality. Just verbal, although just as bad.
Turns out mine was, so it’s possible.
Gays mostly develop homosexuality tendencies because of bullying or abusive behavior in a self-punishing attempt for not being strong enough to fight back,
or to stand for themselves. A result of that is that
No clue what you are talking about honey.
Uhhh, not at all.
Hahahaha what a croc of shit 😂
So you’re saying gay people choose to be gay to punish themselves for not fighting back??
You couldn’t be more wrong. Not all of us were bullied and in time less less and less of us will have to endure it. Yet our community grows
Where on earth did you come up with that?
Most gays have never been bullied, abused, etc. Many remember being sexually curious about their friends and adult males as children.
Interesting theory.
Self hatred is part of being in the closet. That hatred can manifest itself both verbally and physically in the form of violence and verbal abuse of others. I know. I was a bully and verbally abusive to other gay men when closeted. I didn’t believe what I was saying and I didn’t hate them. I was jealous they were free and honest about who they were. Something I couldn’t do at that time.
Complete bollocks.
Probably, mine was/is. He reached out to me years later to apologize and he and his husband and I have remained friends ever since.
Figures. Most of them I have met , I always wound up doing them.